tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31670799.post7648748301267631297..comments2023-11-02T09:44:15.693-04:00Comments on The Center for College Affordability and Productivity: CCAP in the NewsCenter for College Affordability and Productivityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18041956958538598371noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31670799.post-20341701997133811922009-11-07T15:02:52.321-05:002009-11-07T15:02:52.321-05:00Caveman never opens his mouth or posts a comment w...Caveman never opens his mouth or posts a comment without subtracting from the sum total of human knowledge.RWWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16345147132602206121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31670799.post-41806456988238364852009-11-06T11:54:29.843-05:002009-11-06T11:54:29.843-05:00Ah, so what was reported IS absurd. The rate of g...Ah, so what was reported IS absurd. The rate of growth was double -- not the absolute numbers of new administrators vs. new freshman -- a huge difference.<br /><br />It's interesting that both the CNN correspondent and Lou Dobbs, the latter talking about universities "behaving like idiots", can't even get this straight. Talk about idiots! It's amazing that these buffoons have a national audience on TV. <br /><br />Note, that it's administrative plus SUPPORT staff. The latter a much larger category. <br /><br />The growth of "support" staff at the expense of "instruction" may be cause for alarm -- I think it is -- but a lot of this is student-driven. <br /><br />Here where I work, there has been huge growth has been in diversity, "sustainability", resident-life staff.<br /><br />Try cutting this back, and you will hear nothing but student bellyaching, at least from the students who tend to talk the loudest. <br /><br />So to a large extent, the students have nobody to blame but themselves. Or to put it better, they are certainly complicit.capemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327687293859434403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31670799.post-41877943597107897552009-11-05T08:59:21.394-05:002009-11-05T08:59:21.394-05:00Mr. Nesbitt:
The correct statistic is that college...Mr. Nesbitt:<br />The correct statistic is that college administrative and support staffs grew at a rate approximately double that of enrollment between 1997 and 2007.Center for College Affordability and Productivityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041956958538598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31670799.post-51403777155418463012009-11-04T18:33:46.056-05:002009-11-04T18:33:46.056-05:00Ted Nesbitt -- I'm not sure what CCAP actually...Ted Nesbitt -- I'm not sure what CCAP actually said, but this sounds like the kind of absurd claim they make. <br /><br />If what was claimed were true where I work -- two new administrators for each new freshman -- in the last two decades, we would have ADDED more twice as many administrators as the TOTAL number of FTE faculty! <br /><br />Perhaps we are overadministered, but not that much. <br /><br />The writer who published this claim should have known how absurd it is.capemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327687293859434403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31670799.post-69266075324220568012009-11-03T11:05:54.442-05:002009-11-03T11:05:54.442-05:00I watched the Lou Dobbs show last evening. Althou...I watched the Lou Dobbs show last evening. Although we are experiencing "administrative bloating" at my public university, it is certainly not in keeping with Ms. Pilgrim's statement that "for every new freshman entering college on average" TWO ADMINISTRATORS ARE HIRED. She must have misinterpreted your findings, or I am not getting this picture at all. I hope you can clarity her remark. I also wish the CCAP would travel to West Virginia to study our dismal situation. Thank you.Ted Nesbitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644964910365516233noreply@blogger.com